Tag Archives: Quitting

Life’s What’s Happening!

I’m an auntie, y’all. My sister gave birth to the most beautiful, sweet baby boy two weeks ago and I spent last week visiting her and helping out. It was the longest I’ve ever been away from the girls and it went very well. B. handled solo parenthood like a pro, and I slept in until 8:30 two days in a row! Honestly, I thought it would be harder to be away but it was mostly wonderful. I was glad to come back, but I was glad to be by myself. More vacations for me in the future.

Next week is Kindergarten roundup for my oldest daughter, which is unreal and amazing to me. Holding my nephew, I was struck at how quickly his life will fly by. How I’ll turn around and he’ll be in a photo on the porch with an owl backpack and a lunchbag, just like my newborn baby, born in a wintry spring what seems like yesterday. He has dusky skin and brown hair, like the baby boy I fantasized I might have but never will. I love him like my own.

Here’s the thing about LIVING. I mean living as in, embracing life, staying busy, and connecting with people face to face. It takes time. It’s not that I don’t want to write. It’s not that I don’t have some deep insights to share, great moments I want to capture, or questions to ask you guys. It’s that with a full time job and children, I have to chose between LIFE and WRITING and right now LIFE is winning. I’m going to have to set aside writing time daily or weekly because I hate that I’m not getting stuff down on paper,  but I am having so much fun! I’m experimenting with voice-to-text for this reason. Maybe my morning commute will be a good chance? Sigh!!

I just want to point out what seems to be obvious, but here it is: I would never be having this much fun if I was in grad school right now. I wouldn’t be blogging. I wouldn’t be staying up late on school nights. I wouldn’t be watching Supernatural marathons with my sister and her snuggly baby (and cats, the poor neglected cats!). I would be stressing about jobs, stressing about summer money, stressing about the progress on a dissertation I wouldn’t be making, grading midterms, prepping for finals. I had no idea how much fun life could be as an adult, y’all.

What’s happening in your world? What are you excited about on the cusp of spring? What music are you listening to? What book is keeping you up at night?

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Grad School Is a Black Hole For Money & Hope: A #postac Interview with Me!

Dan Mullin at The Unemployed Philosopher has a great postacademic podcast and this week, it features lovable furry old me. Want to know my thoughts on marriage, identity, debt, arrested development, having kids, and more when it comes to quitting grad school? Tune in! And check out Dan’s other eps while you’re at it.

30 Day Photo Challenge: My Reflection

“Stupid choices I made in my twenties might impact my life forever. That’s a drag.” – Me

 

A Post-academic Manifesto

Currer Bell and I wrote a little essay about what we see as the differences between alt-ac and post-ac over at How To Leave Academia. Here’s a sample:

Post-ac is primarily interested in helping the academically disenfranchised move on with life. Post-ac is focused on vocation inasmuch as you need an income to have shelter and food. Post-ac is interested in helping people find any job that can help them be healthy and financially solvent, and eventually a career path (whatever it may be, we don’t judge) that might even be fulfilling. That a post-acer may end up working in an alt-ac capacity is incidental to that person’s particular skillset and desires; we believe that it is possible to work in alt-ac but “be” post-ac. (Lauren, for example, does not consider herself alt-ac although she does work in an alt-ac capacity.) Post-ac is interested in issues of personal life and identity as well as vocational prospects. Post-ac is less concerned with “refashioning academic identity” as it is in helping people move on from their academic experience and build a new life and identity that is not centered around vocation or institutional affiliation. This is a hard process, and we acknowledge a lot of pain. Post-ac acknowledges the enormity of the crisis of un- and underemployment for grad students. Post-ac places a higher premium on being able to pay your bills than on CV lines. Post-ac is interested in survival. Post-ac has no shame about corporate employment, welfare, “selling out,” or the need to talk about dollars and cents when it comes to jobs and debt. Post-ac does not care if you finish grad school or not, and does not share productivity tips or talk about surviving the dissertation. Post-ac is a critique of the academy, its mythology, and its structure.

Read the rest here!

One Year Ago, I Quit Grad School

A year ago today I had The Talk with my advisor and walked away from graduate school. It was a terrifying and relieving experience, and I haven’t regretted it for a day. I never would have guessed that a year later I’d have a job, a blog, and a love for french braiding. This journey has been amazing.

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Quitting grad school is just like this, every day. Except on days when it’s -10 degress in Iowa. Which is most days, lately.

I and a couple other post-academic grad school quittas are setting up a fabulous, free, catch-all website for people quitting grad school or leaving academia, and we need your help. If you quit grad school — if you’re here because you’re thinking about quitting grad school – please contribute to the site or the book. It’s the nicest, easiest, non-academic-iest writing you’ll do and you will help out so many people dying to hear stories from others who’ve walked this road. Head on over and consider sending me a short idea for an essay (as long or as short as you like!) for the site or e-book. We’re hoping to have all of the submissions gathered by Feb. 1st, so get on that already!

Bread Crumbs: Thinking about the one year anniversary of Mama Nervosa

When Lauren and I met a year ago, we had a couple obvious things in common: we are both grad school quittas, raising young daughters who are close in age. We are feminists who love pop culture.

The more we talked, the more connections bubbled up: We are writers who didn’t have writing as a primary part of our identity or daily life. We have had intense relationships with music, fan communities, and hippie boys. We love reading and teaching young adult novels.

Mama Nervosa was founded when Lauren and I were saying goodbye, standing across a kitchen counter from one another: we should blog together, Lauren said, completely casually, as if this were not the most awesome, amazing, generous offer anyone could have made to me at that moment. Seriously, she could have handed me $100 and it would have been less awesome than an invitation to blog together.

Over the course of the past year blogging together, we have had several conversations about what exactly Mama Nervosa is: Are we a mommy blog? A feminist blog? A post ac or alt ac blog? Are we writers? But we can never seem to narrow it down to a single category or check box: we are messy, overlapping, we don’t fit.

Mama Nervosa is motherhood and memoir, quitta and adjunct and post ac, feminist and funny. We are not a reliable product: we have no posting schedule, no length requirements, we begin regular features and wander away from them.

If we have a narrative throughline, a recurring theme that links our posts on topics as varied as loving Neil Young, growing up in Tulsa, quitting grad school, teaching Adrienne Rich, missing the ice cream truck, and falling in love, it’s our willingness to expose the process. If Mama Nervosa has a core belief it’s this: if there is grace to be found in this world, we are more likely to stumble into it along the way than to see it shining brightly ahead of us at some mythical finish line. I’m writing it down as I go, trailing blog posts and cheerios behind me, grateful to be here now, even if I’m not sure where I’m going.

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Self portrait: blogger smooching baby. I looked for a picture of M and I around the time of the workshop last winter, and found nothing. Resolved: more self portraits in the new year.

A Brief History of the Modern Post-Ac (or Reform or Alt-Ac) Movement

Hello, hello! I hope you had wonderful holidays. I completely and utterly enjoyed my first post-academic Christmas, the first time in my life I did not have stacks of papers to either write or grade while also doing the shopping and card-sending. It was blissful and rejuvenating.

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I’m back in the office the day after Christmas — so this is also the first Christmas in my life where I had responsibilities that instantly resumed at the close of holidays! But I’m not complaining: there are only 6 other people in my office, and once I answered a few student emails, I have been able to do whatever I want, which has included teaching my office neighbors to crochet, watering other people’s plants and hermit crabs, and working on our post-academic project.

(Please consider contributing!)

So I’ve been reading through archives of other post-ac blogs — mostly defunct ones — mining them for the best content so we can try and include all relevant info and not have to reinvent the wheel when we set up the website. We’re curates in a number of ways, and it’s occurred to me more than once that this feels like an historical project (in that we’re assembling a bit of history and crafting a narrative, not that we’re making history). I’m reminded of a few archival projects I did as a grad student in American Studies — one on the Hoover Presidential Library, and one on the KMA Kitchen Homemaker Radio Show — in that I’m gathering, gathering, gathering info from archives with no organization beyond chronology and at some point patterns start to emerge and the story matures in a way that’s meaningful and more importantly, writeable! (Except this time, I’m doing it for fun, with friends, and no deadline, and more than 1 person will read it).

I’ve been putting together a timeline that I think traces the roots and chronology of the modern “post-academic movement.” This is a placeholder/umbrella term I’m using to indicate the counter-academic movement within and without institutions broadly: critiques of academia from within (institutional critiques, etc), including concerns about labor structure, grad student exploitation/experience/professionalization, and the contingent faculty movements that have sprung up; and the proliferation of post-academic, ex-academic, and anti-academic blogs and advice books outside the academy. Not that these are equivalent in terms of impact, but more that they’re concurrent. I’m connecting dots here. This is a draft, it’s totally incomplete, and reflects my own background in composition theory and American Studies. Please, suggest additions, ask questions, question the premise, etc.

 

1967:

  • Doctor of Arts programs established — programs briefly flourish, then precipitously fade in the early 90s (seems related because it is a reformed doctoral degree focusing on teaching and application of research).

1960s-90s

  • Process theory gains momentum in composition classrooms. This is significant, IMO, in that it generates some serious cognitive dissonance in the academy, and those effects are borne out through the practices of graduate students.
  • Foucault. Come on.

1987

  • The Wyoming Conference Resolution opposing unfair employment/pay practices for post-secondary English teachers (that is, comp instructors and TAs).

1993

  • Susan Miller writes Textual Carnivals: The Politics of Composition, which is significant IMO because it (a) uses cultural studies to study the institution itself (b) furthers a conversation about hierarchies and exploitation within institutions and departments and (c) talks about how grad students/teachers are complicit in their own exploitation. (There are many other important publications like this. This is the one I could remember off the top of my head.)

1993-2003

1997

1999

  • Paula Chambers founds the WRK4US listserv, which served humanities and social science graduate students in career changes. (See 2010 below.)
  • RateMyProfessor.com founded

2000

  • Re-envisioning the PhD project founded with goals of improving transparency, suggesting reform, and revamping doctoral education in the US.
  • The Responsive PhD project founded to enhance transparency, improve public engagement, and promote diversity in doctoral education. Concluded 2006 with “goals achieved.”

2000s

  • Composition starts to come into its own right as a discipline by becoming everything it hates (ok, that’s an exaggeration). But still, comp starts to feel its own cognitive dissonance as it gains institutional prestige and all the markings of legitimacy (departments! offices! tenure lines! a zillion conferences and journals with parentheses and slashes in the titles!) but continues to focus on vexing issues of racism, sexism, class, oppression, and exploitation in institutionalized practices and hidden pedagogy.

2001

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2012

This post also appears at HowToLeaveAcademia.com

The Best CFP You’ll Ever Get: Help Us Make a Book/Site for Other Quittas

Me and a couple other post-ac bloggers are going to make a website and e-book for people leaving academia. Because career advice isn’t enough. Because the demand for real stories and practical help is so high. The domain is purchased and outlines are drafted:  now we need your help.
Me, JC @ From Grad School to Happiness, Jet from Ruminations, and Currer from Project Reinvention are pulling together:
  • a website with practical, peer-to-peer advice for leaving academia on every topic from emotional issues to getting food stamps to revamping your resume
  • an e-book of essays exploring personal stories of leaving academia (a “bath tub book,” as one commenter put it)
We need content for these projects. You are welcome to write something new or submit your favorite blog post. Propose a topic! See below for the full details on the e-book.
The website is less structured. We simply want it to be a “one stop shop” for links and posts on all the questions we ask ourselves while quitting. Get in touch if you have an idea. As soon as we start receiving content (and get a little help setting up the site), it will go live.
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Moving On: Personal Stories of Leaving Academia (tentatively titled)

Have you left academia? Or are you currently in the process of leaving? Share your story!

As post-academic bloggers, we know firsthand that there is a desire for stories that explore more than just the career aspects of leaving the ivory tower. People want to know how, when, and why you quit; emotional issues related to quitting; and examples of post-academic success. We envision this book as a source of advice and support for readers who have quit graduate school before getting their Ph.D., people leaving academia even after they have finished their degrees, and people who are adjuncting or working in academia who are looking to leave. Many stories of the post-academic transition have been told on personal blogs and websites, including our blogs and web site www.howtoleaveacademia.com (forthcoming), but this is the first collection has been organized to speak directly to people’s experiences leaving academia.

We’re looking for thoughtful, personal pieces (non-fiction or creative non-fiction) that tell a story or develop a theme related to the process of quitting academia. Like any good paper, the essay should have a core thesis or concept that you’re exploring through your writing. We prefer submissions that are relatively jargon-free and more casual in writing style. Your essay can be any length, with a general goal of 5-10 pages double spaced (but we’ll consider shorter or longer!).

If you have poetry, art, or other (digitized) creative work that explores these themes, we’d be interested in that, too.

This collection will focus primarily on what happened after you quit; thus, we are not interested in treatises about the failures of grad school or the problems in higher education. You’re welcome to explore the reasons and circumstances under which you left, but please continue the narrative forward from there. You can be as anonymous as you like, although please include enough detail that the reader can be drawn into your story. We invite you to explore the messiness, difficulty, and contradictions in the quitting process. Not every story has a happy ending, and that’s OK. We encourage submissions on any of these topics, as well as proposals for essays that explore any gaps between them:

  • How, when, and why you left academia: hopes/expectations versus realities in grad school, specific incidents/anecdotes, the job market, what you wish you’d known.
  • Emotional dimensions of leaving — loss or changes of identity, “deprogramming” from academic thought, relationship difficulties and transformations, isolation, mental/physical health issues, joys and new discoveries, family issues, etc.
  • Career Transitions: Teaching stories, writing stories, stories of how you discovered a new vocation/path.
  • Alt-Ac Careers, Adjuncting — Life on campus when you’re not a prof or student, changes in relationships with “the academy.”
  • Success Stories: how quitting changed your life for the better, how happy you are, how glad you are to be gone.
  • Failure stories: screwing up, falling down, awful jobs, bad experiences, floundering, despair.

If you want to share a simpler or more straightforward story of your post-academic journey, please consider submitting to the website (email Lauren or Currer at the addresses below and specify that your submission is for the website).

Timeline:

  • 250 word abstracts due: Feb 1st
  • Goal of getting back to accepted folks mid-February
  • Final essays due: April 1st
  • Goal of publication by graduation in May 2013! :)

Email submissions with “E-Book Submission” in the subject line to Lauren at lauren.nervosa@gmail.com or Currer at projectreinvention12@gmail.com  by Feb 1 2013.

Caveats and Critiques of Graduate School: When the Personal Becomes Political

Every once in awhile someone makes me feel bad for critiquing graduate school so much. They remind me that I’ve benefited from grad school, or had some good experiences, or gained something from having been a grad student. All of that is true. Sometimes I cringe to think that any of my former professors or advisors could find this blog and they might be angry or upset that I write mostly negatively about my grad school experience. I’m 32 but I still want my teachers to like me. I’ve been mulling a response to these kinds of critiques and want to state a few caveats that apply when I’m critiquing or discussing grad school. I also want to draw an analogy between the kind of institutional critique I (and other post/ex-ac writers) make about grad school and the kind of critique I (and other birth activists) have made about institutionalized birth. In both instances, the personal becomes political, and people’s feelings tend to get hurt.

First, some caveats. Continue reading

Quittas and Post-Ac-ers: What should I tell the smart kids to do in addition to grad school?

Thanks for all the kind comments on my last post. Things are looking up. Sometimes drugs really do help.

* This post was edited to make clear distinctions between my personal experiences and personal conversations about grad school and my professional work as an academic advisor. Under no circumstances would I ever tell an advisee what they should do with their lives, or say “You should not go to grad school.” That’s not my role. — lauren

Work is busy, busy, busy and I’ve been thinking about how I could reframe my sad mindset about having lost something I love, and instead focus on new opportunities to learn that are available to me now. One interest that keeps pushing its way to the forefront is working with honors or high-achieving students.

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This is new to me: I spent the last 5 years teaching in developmental programs for at-risk students, at 4-year and community schools. Most of my PhD studies the second time around focused on literacy instruction for struggling college students. I’ve spent my teaching career really interested in that trailing end of the bell curve, and believe deeply that most students are capable of success with the right support.

But now I get to work with the opposite end of the bell curve: students who were high school rock stars, or kids who just started college and are feeling that rush of “Ahh! This is what I was waiting for! This is my place! I’m really good at this!” These are my double majors, my smart asses, my “can I minor in Spanish AND do a certificate in entrepreneurship AND a double major in psych and bio? How about study abroad?” kids. These are my kids in the sense that, they are who I was as a college student. Continue reading

Fallout: The Psychological Debt of Grad School

When I named our blog Mama Nervosa, I thought it was sort of ha-ha funny. Oh, I’m so neurotic! It’s so amusing! But time has shown that it was a rather uncannily accurate descriptor, at least for me (maybe not as much for Jen). Obviously, a lot of my writing, especially around quitting grad school, has dealt with dark and intense emotions. And sometimes, my writing about motherhood veers towards the anxious, confused, or unhappy. Since day one, I’ve wanted to represent myself and my reality in a frank and hopefully funny way, although it’s not as funny as I wanted it to be.

Thing is, this has been a tough six months for me. Quitting grad school is incredibly difficult, as we have documented, and I have struggled with it. But really, it’s more than that: quitting grad school shook me to my core, and now it’s bringing up a bunch of really messy, dark stuff that’s been dormant, too. I’m now dealing with deeper, more longterm problems that have been on hold or deferred or ignored while I was in grad school. The last 2-3 months have been extremely hard for me, emotionally, even though on the surface everything worked out fairly well (I have a good job and necessary income: things could be so much worse). But I liken it to lifting up a rock and peering at all the gross stuff beneath. Or cleaning a room that seems rather messy but then you get in there and realize, oh shit, this is going to take me all day. The depression and unhappiness that led me to quit grad school is just the tip of the iceberg. The confusion and identity shifts that quitting brought on go way deeper than just the vocation I was aiming for, or the kind of student I wanted to be.

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JC has written eloquently about the mental health problems that plague graduate students. Grad school is a breeding ground for depression, hopelessness, and disillusionment, and I certainly suffered from all of those problems as a student. But I think that even beyond the obvious stressors, the culture of graduate school sort of arrests our development and growth. We end up trading water in a stage of life that’s not quite adulthood, but beyond adolescence. The continuous cycle of renewal — a new school year, a new job market season, a new semester, a new round of courses — can (at least for me, I imagine for many) act as a feedback loop which it’s very hard to break out of or think beyond. The endless chance of renewal makes it so much easier to wait and see and defer dealing with a problem. I’m unhappy in school, but maybe next semester will be better. I hate coursework, but let’s see if getting out of it makes me feel better. I no longer love this field, but this other one over here is really exciting and I can move in that direction.

Thus, you never deal with the problems of right now. You can deny, deny, deny, until you break down and quit. You can be terribly unhappy but certain that a solution is right around the corner. It’s so alluring to stay in that world because then you don’t have to face the fears and horrible outside world. I know because I lived that, over and over again. Fear kept me in school. Certainly, the grad school culture of perpetual hope and refusal to discuss/acknowledge anything negative or weak or worrying encouraged me to avoid pain and avoid dealing with problems in the same way it encouraged me to go into deeper and deeper financial debt.

I think that I expected quitting would break that cycle and that stepping into the light of the real world would fix me. I mean, I knew it would be a tough transition, but I truly believed finding a paying job would fix me in a certain way. That the benefits of real life, money, time, etc — all the things denied to me in grad school — would overwhelm the sadness and uncertainty. That I wouldn’t be sad anymore.

But now I am not only dealing with the fallout from quitting, I’m dealing with a backlog of personal issues that got denied and deferred for most of my twenties. I’m dealing with my psychological debt, in a way: suddenly facing a huge payoff because I kept borrowing more time. I’m dealing with immense darkness and feeling awful. I’m spending a lot of time meeting with psychiatrists and therapists. (I’m so deeply relieved that I have health insurance and the means to pursue these options.)

I’ve wrestled with sharing this because I am afraid that people will be like fuck that! I’m staying in grad school! I still think quitting was the right thing to do. I’m glad I have a job. I’m glad I’m not still stuck in that cycle of magical thinking. But I want to be honest with you and everyone about the toll grad school may continue to take on us, long after we leave. Anyone who’s ever been in a 12 step program or faced dealing with some major trauma knows that you reach a point where you can’t go on living this way anymore, but you are also terrified to try to live without the things you’ve been clinging to. It becomes both impossible and necessary to change yourself completely. I’m standing on that precipice right now. The only thing I know for sure, from past experience, is that hope is on the other side. I’d rather be struggling towards hope than running in the opposite direction. I had to quit to get this point.

So, quitting might not always be pretty, but I still think it’s better.